Vice President and presidential candidate Kamala Harris represented many groundbreaking, progressive strides in American politics. She was the first Black, South Asian and female vice president and the first Black and South Asian woman to run for president for the Democratic party.

On Wednesday, Nov. 6, Harris conceded to Republican candidate and former President Donald Trump, and politics and society editor at The Conversation notes that this loss represents American voters’ inability to break the glass ceiling and elect a woman president. Lieberman spoke to Farida Jalalzai, a scholar specializing in women leaders and gender in politics, to better understand Harris’ defeat and how the U.S. compares to other countries with female leaders.